Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. Additionally you can tune your load so accuracy difference go out the window. . 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Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box N N2TRKYS Well-Known Member Joined It does have a dark side, though. I run the Berger 180 hybrids at 2900 in my 280 ackley with no pressure signs. We have killed over a half dozen deer over 850 yards with the 195 berger so i know it performs well on game (never lost a deer with the 195 even with one having poor shot placement). However, if youre hoping to win a target shooting contest at 600 yards, the 3 inches less wind deflection and 4 inches less drop from the PRC give you a leg up. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated standard velocity cartridges. Because the 7mm RM is a familiar benchmark, lets establish some basic performance numbers in an 8 pound rifle with 24-inch barrel spitting a representative spire point, boat tail, 175-grain hunting bullet, B.C. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. Going to be used from antelope to elk. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. We're doing break in on it tomorrow. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. So Im going through this same thing Are you wanting to run a shorter barrel? You go long. Improving 7mm Rem. It made sense for me. Mag. 22 Nosler. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. The 28 Nosler has a muzzle energy of 3470 ft-lbs, and the 30 Nosler has muzzle energy at 3639 ft-lbs. The 404 Jeffery sired the majority of Nosler's cartridge line, namely the 30 Nosler, 26 Nosler, and 33 Nosler as well as other cartridges like the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum (SAUM). It's an extraordinary caliber that has proven itself for decades upon decades, and just in the last few years has hit new strides thanks to the SAAMI standardization of the caliber, because of it's time-tested popularity. Going to a 28-inch barrel provides more volume for burning those big doses of slow-burning powder, adding 50 to perhaps 100 fps to 26-inch barrel velocities. Anyone looking for really good dies call Whiddon and have them made. Minuteman. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. factory 7mm Rem. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. SAUM can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. I set my dies to headspace off the shoulder and forget about the belt. If you were to blow the taper out to .010" and add-in a 40-degree shoulder, you would only gain 1.9 grains of case capacity. for my brand of hunting. They sharpened the shoulder angle. JavaScript is disabled. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. You are using an out of date browser. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. rick smith. Trustpilot. All rights reserved. ( They are sitting on the shelf waiting , though.) Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. 7 RUM Choose an option 6.5 PRC 6.5 SAUM 7 SAUM 7 REM MAG 7 RUM 28 NOSLER 300 WIN MAG 300 NORMA MAG 300 PRC 300 RUM 30 NOSLER 338 LAPUA 338 RUM 338 EDGE 300 WSM 375 RUM 7 REM MAG BRIGHT 338 RUM BRIGHT 30 NOSLER BRIGHT. $94.95 $79.95. https://westtexordnance.com/7mm-300-norma-improved/, https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/28-nosler-195-berger-re33-testing.159270/, Desert Tech SRS A2 Covert FDE w/ conversions, Desert Tech SRS A1 FDE RH 6.5x47L - Parted Out. I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. These claims are valid if the short magnum cartridges are fired in 24 inch barrels, the same length as the barrels of most 7mm Rem. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. Its designed to send long, sleek, high B.C. JavaScript is disabled. If you want a shorter barrel, look into the 7 SAUM, 7 RM and even the 7-08 , they'll all get it done nicely. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . You must log in or register to reply here. This is Not a New Thing. Retumbo. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. Great availability of components and above all a barrel that will last 1500+ when used like a hunting rifle and cared for. 7mm Rem. Mag. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. How bout building a 280AI. First, thanks to OP for starting this Thread and to everyone for posting. So how do you choose among these three? If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. Recoil of a 9# Rem. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. The SAUM will be built on a long action. Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you'll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. with either the Berger 215- or 230-grain Hybrid and push them at maximum pressures. 224 Valkyrie. ADG 7mm Rem Mag Brass. I have a 28 nosler, and love it, but I wanted the extra 200 FPS from hand . I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. Mag. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! If its a hunting rifle does it really matter? You must log in or register to reply here. Mag. Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC I am very pleased I am shooting retumbo using adg brass which is excellent brass highly recommend, shooting 165 Gamechanger at 3075, 180 Berger right at 3000. Looking at going with the 7mag or 28 nosler. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. 7mm RemMag. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. Compared to the ballistics of the new Rem. If your just hunting without extended range sessions I'g use this over the 7rem mag. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm and especially 7mm. Pretty sure the can thing is a complete game changer on optimal barrel length. It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. Ive got the same dilemma. Meanwhile, over in Africa a Scottish commercial ivory hunter named Bell was making the little 7x57mm famous as a BIG big game round by dropping some 800 elephants with it. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. Published Nov 25, 2019 7:53 PM EST. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. Typical 140- to 175-grain, .284 slugs are wide enough to resist bending (a problem Bell had with tough, thick elephant bones) yet narrow enough to minimize drag. Thanks. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Although, the 28 Nosler is an awesome cartridge. I love my 7 SAUM and would do it again. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . 7mm mag has stood the test of time. Guys report great brass life with belted cases. But if you suspect a 26-inch barrel might be a bit unwieldy, waitll you haul around a 28-inch. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. I'd opt for the 7RM. I went 7SAUM. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. The 180's will work with a 9 nit the bigger bullets will have a decided edge in the wind. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. We use cookies to make your experience better. In 2001 Remington looked to the old .404 Jeffery case for its ultra-speedy 7mm. Great case design, great bc bullets available, more efficient powder burn than most 7mm cartridges, low recoil, and very very accurate. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. . Trustpilot. All of the figures from both companies were developed in 24 inch test barrels. I used to shoot 154gr hornady interbonds at 3750 and latest was not to push over 3400. Just to add another fly in the ointment, but another 7mm to consider, is the 7mm Blaser Mag. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. Those are some impressive numbers. The rim of the RUM was already rebated to fit a .534-inch bolt face. But you pay the price in recoil and that 26-inch barrel. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. rifles. Qty: Add to cart. Mine shoots factory 160 class ammo at 1/2 MOA (5 & 10 shot groups) in the mid 2900s with SD in the mid teens. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. Mag. Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. The sample Hornady 180-gr. Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. 28 has an edge over 7RM on range and power, but as others have stated 7RM already has. If we're talking optimizing performance, a 26" barrel is not optimum for either cartridge - you should instead be looking at 30" - 32" barrels. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. .280 AI hands-down. My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. and instead recommends the 30-28 nosler, 300 norma and improved, and 300 PRC stating that each has 75% less throat erosion than the 28 nosler and with essentially identical ballistics. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. And with RL33 hes getting 3140 fps (pretty easily), using Retumbo (for it's temp stability) drops it about 75 fps. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Trustpilot. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. To get this Hornady went to its usual bag of tricks: The new, updated Remington M700 standard length action rifles handled the Hornady 7mm PRC 180-gr. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. Amazing bc too for the weight. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. It went on to prove itself as a grand all-round big game cartridge, becoming the most popular, most recognized 7mm magnum around the world. The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. ADG 28 Nosler. You must log in or register to reply here. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. Buy Now. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. In the past, running 284 Win (reaching back to Raton, 2013), I would have said that (for me at least) a rechamber would be in order for a straight 284 around the 2000 round mark. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. These are some impressive numbers. 7RM!! These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. ADG 30 Nosler Brass. This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. During processing the large, soft grains are broken down into smaller ones, which makes for a harder material. As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. As the name suggests, this round is aimed squarely at accurate, long range performance. The 175/180 class Bullets sneaking along (1/4 MOA) at 2950-ish give or take, certainly not to par with the newer selections. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. Mag. Good luck in your search, hope youll be as happy as I am with my results. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. I'm the same as you. This precision does not mean the 7mm PRC is a long range target round only. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. Mag. But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. And heres the same 175-gr. RL-19, H4350, and IMR 4350 are all good choices. Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. Another vote for 7 rem mag. Were I seeking the absolute top-end, extreme-range performance and willing to carry a 28 inches of barrel, Id look harder at the RUM. I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. While the 7 Rem Mag has been built on everything from 1:8 twist to 1:10, most spin 1:9. IMR 4350 was the most accurate powder tested. Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. One of the draws to the 7 SAUM is the availability of high-quality brass through companies like Norma and ADG. I have one on a 26" proof barrel. Nosler Unprimed Brass 204 Ruger $ 53.82 - $ 208.59 Select options Nosler Unprimed Brass 220 Swift (50) $ 84.99 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem (100) $ 111.28 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem Magnum (250) Unprocessed Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 215.54 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 223 Rem $ 50.18 - $ 206.83 Select options Its likely to be as popular in the 21st century as the Rem Mag was in the 20th. Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. They straightened the sidewalls. For reasons that I can't explain (though perhaps have something to do with me eating paint chips as a kid), I have an obsession with 3k FPS muzzle velocity. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. Categories Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. Mag. This is probably too high for real world hunting, but well use it as a standard here for cartridge-to-cartridge comparison consistency.). Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. You are using an out of date browser. My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. When I add this up, I default to the 7mm Rem. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. gavevare til innvarming, bryllup, bursdager og alle anledninger. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. . I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. Smaller-framed or young shooters generally consider the cartridge as having high recoil, but its recoil is manageable for experienced large-framed shooters to be able to shoot it regularly. 6.5 PRC. 7mm SAUM vs 7mm Rem Mag | Full Comparison 24,889 views Sep 12, 2020 306 Dislike Share Save GunFather Precision 6.7K subscribers To answer a question I regularly get asked here is a full. Long action lone peak. Which action are you using and what barrel length? I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. JavaScript is disabled. My vote would be for the 7 saum. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. Fill this with 88 grains of slow burning Reloder 33 powder and, according to the Nosler Reloading Guide 8, you should get 3,211 fps from a 26-inch barrel. Now lets compare this to our other two 7mm candidates. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. Qty: Add to cart . Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. I can't tell you how many cartridge choices I've settled on, only to change my mind again and again. It is going to be strictly a hunting gun on a lighter weight platform. It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. Mag. And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. &mm PRC. Genesis 1:1 NRA Benefactor Life, SAF, RMEF, Memberships "Want to stop drunk drivers from killing sober drivers? That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. Creedmoor Sports $ 86.95 . It may not display this or other websites correctly. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. 7mm Rem. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. Bullet made it in about 3" an blew a big hole in it. You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. Essentially, 7mm PRC rifles will be manufactured with match-grade chambers. Pros, cons of both and reasons why. ADG 300 . Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. I neither believe in this minimum nor in shooting elk at 700 yards, but this is impressive performance for a standard-length cartridge nearing its 60th birthday. Id suggest a similar plan. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. Rich is a good guy to talk to on the phone we bsd a bit the other day. Alabusa Learning. By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. You could beat it by loading that same bullet in the 28 Nosler, but youre still facing the barrel burn out issue. bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Diver160651 Who cares. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. at the muzzle. I made the same decision not long ago and went 7mm RM, although barrel life was a consideration for me, which it probably wouldn't be on a strictly hunting rig. That results in performance like this: Whoa grandma! I did shoot a black bear years ago with a 140gr Sierra, ugly. My vote would be 7RM as well. Piecing together a rifle build but havent settled on what I want to chamber it in. This will be a custom built hunting rifle(deer and elk) and will need to be carried long distances. JavaScript is disabled. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. When making your choice, don't factor in component or ammo availability. Both cartridges were designed to work through short action rifles. Trustpilot. Remington and Winchester went to short, fat, unbelted cases for their latest 7mm magnums, the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum and the Winchester Short Magnum. All the info in that thread made my decision for me. I would not be overly concerned with it only being for hunting. But if you are only going to shoot the 160's you may be ok with SAAMI spec'd chamber. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. The 7mm Remington Mag generates significant recoil of 22.15 ft-lbs at 13.32 fps. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7mm or 0.284" while the 300 PRC fires the . Saw some shiney spots, no bolt lift but did open the pocket a little to the point of a few firings at 3120 fps. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. If the muzzle energy is higher, it will leave the bullet with higher energy. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. They are all throwing the same bullets more than hard and fast enough for anything. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. The .308 just has to be quite a bit heavier. More obscure were the 7mm Gibbs and the Norma-loaded 7x61mm Sharpe & Hart in the early 1950s. Cartridge choices i 've settled on what i want to chamber it in about &... 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